THE WOLF'S DEN - Tana dei Lupi IV

[Italiamia]

And there's no way Motta's better going forward than Cicinho. The problem with Cicinho is the lack of balance he brings to the position. Cicinho's got more pace and more technical quality than Motta; it's just that his defensive weaknesses outweigh his strengths going forward.

I do not agree. Motta is a bigger, stronger player first of all and he has great pace down the right side. He makes nice runs and has a pretty good cross. He can also take a shot from distance with tremdous velocity.

[maro]

Cicinho's quicker, a better crosser, and has a better shot. Anyone can see that. Even dibdib.

[Italiamia]

To be fair, De Silvestri was only so clear because some other Fiorentina fuck had clipped Riise's ankles going through. The commentator said Riise slipped but he was tripped and so there would have been some recriminations had the Laziale fuck (you know I hate tautologies) scored.

He was already past Riise when he was tripped Tommaso. They were getting good chances coming off of the right side. There was just too much space to work with out there.

[Italiamia]

Cicinho's quicker, a better crosser, and has a better shot. Anyone can see that. Even dibdib.

I assume this is sarcasm again. If not, I cannot agree.

[maro]

Already past Riise? Have a look at the video here: http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/vo ... l#comments
About the 2:22 mark.

[Italiamia]

Already past Riise? Have a look at the video here: http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/vo ... l#comments
About the 2:22 mark.

Do you think that Riise would have been able to get to De Silvestri there Tommaso. Look at his position on the field. No way he gets there.

[romawi]

He wasn't past Riise at that point. He was tripped before the pass happened. I also, agree with maro about Motta. His performances at the beginning of the season were awful, but I still think he should have had a lot more playing time. It's not as if the alternatives were that much better. Cassetti has been decent at best, and Cicinho, I don't think that needs much of an explanation. Oh and Cicinho is better than Motta going forward, but I don't know that Cicinho has a better shot.

[romawi]

Gio, you can't be sure that Jovetic would have made the pass either. He saw Riise fall and then made the pass.

[Italiamia]

Gio, you can't be sure that Jovetic would have made the pass either. He saw Riise fall and then made the pass.

Riise was sucked inside and he was not going to get to Di Silvestre

[Italiamia]

Gio, you can't be sure that Jovetic would have made the pass either. He saw Riise fall and then made the pass.

I think he would have made the pass. He nearly hit Riise with the ball as he was on the ground. I'm not being critical of Riise, he has been solid for Roma. He never gets hurt and he never complains. My point is that we were really stretched thin yesterday and gave up too many good chances. But again, we were playing a desperate team.

[arthurfonzarelli]

Riise would have caught up and offered a defensive position (ie a more difficult shot for De Silvestri to eventually scuff anyway).
Most people would have made that same pass even if Riise had not fallen but it's clear that Jovetic saw open space and looked for the oncoming laziale fuck to drop it to the right.

maro: I counted 3 saves that JSB made that were not necessarily saves that he should have made.

Cicinho is a better crosser of the ball and offers more going forward but does not have a powerful shot. Motta's shot is really good but not as good as Ita makes it out to be. cassetti's is probably as good as Motta. Great to see Cicinho can go and we get some loan $ for him. Cassetti is not exactly a non-liability defensively so gievn Motta's form, he should start all games in which he's healthy and not suspended.

[maro]

I'm not criticising Riise - he should have been given the freekick. He ran the inside line precisely to push De Silvestri wide. He ran the line a defender should - had Riise been on his feet first of all Jovetic would have had to steer the ball wider to get it past Riise and then Riise would have been able to get much closer to De Silvestri. With Riise not tripped, in short, De Silvestri might have had an excuse for not scoring; with Riise tripped, he had enough time to order a pizza, hesitate over whether to go carciofi or ulive before finally deciding to go both together, and still score.

[maro]

I agree with 'relli.

[Italiamia]

I'm not criticising Riise - he should have been given the freekick. He ran the inside line precisely to push De Silvestri wide. He ran the line a defender should - had Riise been on his feet first of all Jovetic would have had to steer the ball wider to get it past Riise and then Riise would have been able to get much closer to De Silvestri. With Riise not tripped, in short, De Silvestri might have had an excuse for not scoring; with Riise tripped, he had enough time to order a pizza, hesitate over whether to go carciofi or ulive before finally deciding to go both together, and still score.

In that entire sequence we were getting burned on a counter attack. Riise was too far inside to make a play on the ball. His back was to De Silvestri and I do not believe he would have been able to turn back and thwart the shot or even alter the shot. Again, I'm not being critical of Riise but Fiorentina had very good looks at the net all day.

Fonz, again, I do not agree on Cicinho at all. But I do agree what Julio made some pretty fine saves that were not routine.

[maro]

I reckon I would comfortably have made every save he made - and I wouldn't have poked half of them across the goal in front of me in the hope some Fiorentina attacker was following through looking for a tasty tap-in.

[arthurfonzarelli]

I reckon I would comfortably have made every save he made - and I wouldn't have poked half of them across the goal in front of me in the hope some Fiorentina attacker was following through looking for a tasty tap-in.

lol. One was really bad. The one with Riise covering would have been so easy to tap in.

Don't know if you noticed the Gazzetta live commentary of the Siena Samp game. The first goal by Samp was due to an "errore ingenuo di Curci" or something of the sort. I can imagine you smirking at that.

Either way, given our policy to sell off our assets one by one every year. I would go with selling Doni next year. He's a luxury we can afford to get rid of. I would also try to offload Arthur and Lobont and bring back Curci since Siena's going down. Curci's positioning might not be topnotch but he's certainly a good enough shot blocker to be a number 2 (while battling to be a number 1). Frasca could be our number 3.

[maro]

A smirk, Fonz? I like Curci a lot and would have loved to have seen Spags install him as number one for us three years ago and then to have simply lived with the consequences. I just have to keep a check on certain idealisations every now and then. So, for instance, Julio Sergio's tendency to bounce shots back across goal and his paralysis at the sight of a corner across the six-yard-box give me cause for concern - before we concede goals because of those weaknesses as well, no doubt, as after.

[arthurfonzarelli]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smirk

[maro]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... edge&go=Go